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Robert Gilbert

circa 1470 - circa 1510

Father Robert Gilbert
Mother Joan Statham
Wife Elizabeth Columbell
Children Humphrey, John, Lucy, Cecily, Barbara, Roland


Robert was probably born somewhere around 1470 (1), in Youlgreave, the son of Robert & Joan (3)(4)(5).

He married Elizabeth Columbell, from Darley (3)(4)(5)(6)(7), and they had (at least) three daughters - Lucy, Cecily & Barbara, and (at least) three sons - Humphrey, Roland and John (3)(5).

Robert was involved in dealings over land in Dronfield in 1499/1500 (8)(9)(10), and he was present at court in Youlgreave in 1508/09 (11), but probably died fairly soon after this (12). His widow remarried, to William Stafford of Botham (6)(7).


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  1. He was "of age" in 1499, when he was involved in land deals in Dronfield (8)(9)(10), putting his date of birth no later than 1478. Considering he was the heir to his father's estate, and thus the eldest survivng son, he was probably born fairly soon after his parents marriage. As his father is believed to have been born sometime before 1450, I believe his date of birth would have been a little earlier, probably back to the start of the 1470s. It could have been considerably earlier, but as Anne, the daughter of his eldest son Humphrey, was born around the mid 1520s, that seems a reasonable estimate.
  2. His family was said to be "of Youlgreave", and he himself was described similarly in 1499 (9), but this could possibly mean within the wider parish, rather than Youlgreave township itself.
  3. Pedigree of the Gilbert family of Yolgreave in the visitations of 1569 and 1611 (as published in "The Genealogist (New Series)" Volumes 7 & 8).
  4. "Notes on the Churches of Derbyshire", by J Charles Cox, 1875, Volume 2, pages 329-330, within the chapter on Youlgreave church, contains the following:
    Against the east end of the north aisle is a remarkable monument, which previous to the restoration was in the chancel; at an earlier date it was against the south wall of the south aisle, as descibed by Bassano; but it was originally designed (as we believe) to form a memorial reredos at the back of the chantry altar of the Lady Chapel in the latter aisle. This mural has twenty-one small figures carved in relief in alabaster. In the centre is the Blessed Virgin crowned, with the Child in her arms. To her right kneels a man with his seven sons behind him, to her left kneels the wife with their ten daughters behind her. Round the margin is the following inscription in rather illegible black letter :-
    "Hic jacet sub lapede corp' Roberti Gylbert de Yolgreff generosi, et Johe cosortis sue, que Joha obiit, iie die Novembris Ao dni MCCCCLXXXXII, qui quid' Robert clausura hujus capelle fieri fecit in Ao [superadict], et idem Robert' obit."
    The word in brackets is now missing, a piece of the marble having been cut out, but we have supplied it from the copy of the inscription taken by Bassano. The date of the death of Robert was never recorded. The meaning of the latter part of the inscription is, that Robert Gilbert erected in 1492, a screen, or parclose, round the east end of the south aisle, so as to form a chapel. Below the figures are three shields, (1) Statham (gu, a pale fusilly, arg, with a crescent for difference); (2) Statham impaling Rossington (arg a fesse between three crescents, gu); and (3) Rossington.
    The first of the Gilberts, of Youlgreave, mentioned in the Visitation pedigrees, is Robert Kniveton alias Gilbert, who married Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas Maple, of Mapleton. His son, Nicholas Gilbert, married Margaret, daughter and co-heiress of Sir John Rossington ... . Their eldest son and heir was Robert Gilbert, who, by his wife Alice, daughter of Nicholas Cooper, had issue Robert, commemorated by this monument. This Robert Gilbert married Joan, daughter of John Statham, of Horsley. The Gilberts, of Youlgreave, whose own arms were - gu, a bend vaire, arg and sab, seem to have for the most part adopted the arms of Rossington, as the more honourable family, after their alliance with that heiress. It should also be noted that a careless blunder of the original sculptor has reversed the arms on the monument, and has made Statham impale Rossington (i.e. Gilbert), instead of vice versa. Of the various children here depicted, we are only able to give the name of the eldest son and heir - Robert Gilbert, who married Elizabeth, daughter of Henry Columbell, of Darley.*
    * For pedigree of Gilbert, alias Kniveton, see Egerton MSS 966 f28; Harl MSS 1537 f76. The Gilbert who married the heiress of Rossington is named Nicholas in the Harl MSS 1537, 6592, 2134, 886, and elsewhere, but he is named Richard in Egerton and Add MSS. We suppose that the Knivetons of Youlgreave, originally sprang from the Knivetons, of Kniveton, and changed their name to Gilbert through alliance with an heiress of that family. But younger branches of the Knivetons of Youlgreave, retained their patronymic. The Youlgreave registers contain various entries of Kniveton, both in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.
  5. Pedigree of the Kniveton alias Gilbert family, of Youlgreave, from the papers of Benjamin Bagshaw, antiquarian. Sheffield Archives reference Bag C/3361B
  6. Pedigree of the Columbell family of Darley in the visitations of 1569 and 1611 (as published in "The Genealogist (New Series)" Volumes 7 & 8).
  7. Pedigree of the Stafford family of Botham in the visitations of 1569 and 1611 (as published in "The Genealogist (New Series)" Volumes 7 & 8).
  8. Document from the "Portland of Welbeck (1st deposit): Deeds and Estate Papers", held at Nottingham Archives, reference 157 DD/P/70/18 (under Dronfield papers), dated 4 Oct. 1499. Catalogue entry reads:
    Recognition of Feoffment in Dronfield manor court: Robert Gilbert and Thomas Fox to George, Earl of Shrewsbury, Thomas Talbot, Ralph Knyveton and Thomas Jakes:-- all property late of John Fox and Thomas Fox, father and grandfather of T.F., and the advowson of the church and chantry of Dronfield.
  9. Document from the "Portland of Welbeck (1st deposit): Deeds and Estate Papers", held at Nottingham Archives, reference 157 DD/P/70/22 (under Dronfield papers), dated 22 Oct. 1499. Catalogue entry reads:
    Demise: George, Earl of Shrewsbury, Thomas Talbot, Richard Knyveton and Thomas Jakes to Thomas Barley, Robert Gilbert, junr. of Yolgrave, Roger Temple of Barton undere Nedewode, co. Staffs. and Robert, son of Thomas Fox:-- messuage, 2 gardens and a croft (tenements of the gild of St. Mary of Dronfield W. and George, Earl of Shrewsbury E.); closes called Southwode and Byrkin Rowe; croft called Carre Croft; lac. in Habrowes (land of William Lowcok, chaplain E. and Robert Barley, W.); lac. (land of Robert Barley on either side); 1r. (land of Robert Barley, W. and John Cartlaige, E.); lac. in Alnesfeld (land of the gild of St. Mary E. and John Owtraym W.); 3r. at the Quekyn Tree (land of John Cartlaige S. and William Swyft B.); 3r. in the Rakys (land of John Cartlaige S. and William Parker, N.); 6ac. in the Westfeld (land of Robert Barley E. and Philip Leche W.) --: Power of attorney to William Mylner and John Cartlaige to deliver seisin and to surrender the premises in the manor court of Thomas Kebeel and other feoffees of Sir William Hastynges (late Lord Hastynges) in Dronfeld.
  10. Document from the "Portland of Welbeck (1st deposit): Deeds and Estate Papers", held at Nottingham Archives, reference 157 DD/P/70/23 (under Dronfield papers), dated 9 Feb. 1499/50. Catalogue entry reads:
    Final Concord for 100: George, Earl of Shrewsbury, Thomas Talbot, Richard Knyveton and Thomas Jakes, plaintiffs and Robert Gylbert and Thomas Fox and his wife Eleanor, deforceants:-- 12 messuages, 10 tofts, 20 virgates land, 20ac. meadow, 300ac. pasture, 20ac. woodland, 200ac. moor and 20s. rent in Dronfeld, Cooldaston, Letfeld, Chasterfeld, Norton, Grenehill, Newbold, Tapton and Hekyngton.
  11. The Feudal History of the County of Derby, by John Pym Yeatman, Volume 3, Secion 6, page 390, in a transcript of a court roll from 24 Henry VII [1508/09] lists those present at a court held in Youlgreave, and the list includes Robert Gylbert.
  12. Although there was a Robert Gilbert living in North Derbyshire until at least 1525 (13)-(21), I believe this was a different person. This later Robert was never associated with Youlgreave, and it is known that Robert must have died fairly young, as his widow remarried William Stafford (6). She can't have been too old at this second marriage, because after her death, William Stafford married again - twice! (7)
  13. The Feudal History of the County of Derby, by John Pym Yeatman, Volume 3, Secion 6, page 395, in a transcript of a court roll from 6th October 6 Henry VIII [1514] lists those present at a court held in Bowden, and the list includes Robert Gilbert.
  14. The Feudal History of the County of Derby, by John Pym Yeatman, Volume 3, Secion 6, page 399, in a transcript of a court roll from 15th October 8 Henry VIII [1516] lists the jury at a court held in Tideswell, and the list includes Robert Gilbert.
  15. The Feudal History of the County of Derby, by John Pym Yeatman, Volume 3, Secion 6, page 399, in a transcript of a court roll from 16th October 8 Henry VIII [1516] lists those present at a court of the foresters of Campana held in Buxton, and the list includes Robert Gilbert.
  16. The Feudal History of the County of Derby, by John Pym Yeatman, Volume 3, Secion 6, page 401, in a transcript of a court roll from 26th March 11 Henry VIII [1520] lists the jury at a court held in Tideswell, and the list includes Robert Gilbert.
  17. The Feudal History of the County of Derby, by John Pym Yeatman, Volume 3, Secion 6, page 404, in a transcript of a court roll from 11th October 12 Henry VIII [1520] lists those present at a court of the foresters of Campana held in Bowden, and the list includes Robert Gilbert.
  18. The Feudal History of the County of Derby, by John Pym Yeatman, Volume 3, Secion 6, page 405, in a transcript of a court roll from 13th October 13 Henry VIII [1521] lists the jury at a court held in Tideswell, and the list includes Robert Gilbert.
  19. The Feudal History of the County of Derby, by John Pym Yeatman, Volume 3, Secion 6, page 406, in a transcript of a court roll from 23rd April 14 Henry VIII [1522] lists the jury at a court held in Chelmorton, and the list includes Robert Gilbert.
  20. The Feudal History of the County of Derby, by John Pym Yeatman, Volume 3, Secion 6, page 407, in a transcript of a court roll from 14 Henry VIII [1522/23] lists the jury at a court held in Castleton, and the list includes Robert Gilbert.
  21. The Feudal History of the County of Derby, by John Pym Yeatman, Volume 3, Secion 6, page 420, in a transcript of a court roll from 12th April 17 Henry VIII [1525] lists those present at a view of frankpledge at a court held somewhere in the High Peak, and the list includes Robert Gilbert.



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